I am so sorry Pastor Doug.... it has been pointed out to me that the pastor from the Madawaska Gospel church is Doug...not Joe. I guess I have watched to many episodes of Judge Joe Brown....I am sorry for getting it wrong.
Also while I am apologizing.... the man I named "Ben" is really Brian. WOW!, I hope I paid more attention to the sermon.....shame on me. Again I apologize BRIAN!!!!!!.
Thank you,
TJ
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